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Advanced swearing in Finnish
keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 14:20
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My second puff towards ButtUgly today comes in the form of a sequel: I thought we could take a a look at some colorful ways of using the expressions in JJ’s list of Useful words in Finnish
.
The possessive form. A powerful, yet easy way to enhance the effect of your magic word is using a possessive form as a pair for the word in its basic form. Examples:
p*****een p*****e
- the devil’s devilv***n v***u
- vagina’s vaginaS*****an S*****a
- Satan’s satan
Note, that although the form suggests a strange relationship between the two words (e.g. as if Satan had a satan
of his own, or a vagina had a vagina), no one using these actually means it; the form is probably just used because saying the same word twice sounds pretty stupid, and still you wish to express that your irritatedness is best descibed by, say, p*****e
to the second power.
Using v***u
as a sentence. V***u
has become such a generic expression of feeling the v*****s
(as discussed by J-Ko) that a need has risen to use another powerful word as the actual swear word in accompany of this one, sentence-like word. Perhaps for some subconscious, linguistic reasons, S*****a
seems to go particularly well with this:
V***u, S*****a!
To convey the full meaning of this expression, it would probably have to be translated something like this: For fuck’s sake, I am feeling extremely frustrated and irritated, if not completely pissed off!
As you can see, intense emotions and rich nuances are easily expressed using compact sentences of the Finnish language.
How to express something sucks
. The actual word suck
which is imeä
, really isn’t used that much, since most Finnish speakers only associate it with something vacuum cleaners do (as well as something else, which you are free to associate from vacuum cleaners yourself). A very similar expression in meaning we do have, however, and that is olla p***eestä
which is to emerge from ass
:
tämä on p***eestä
- this emerged from ass (this sucks
)proge on p***eestä
- progressive rock emerged from ass (progressive rock sucks
)se jätkä on ihan p***eestä
- the guy definitely emerged from ass (the guy sucks ass
)
N.b.: ass
in this context does not refer to the animal, but the part of human anatomy.
See also (and react to, if you know the answer) pni pondering why finns use sixteen (kuustoista
) and the swedes seventeen (sjutton
) in a swearing context.
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Advanced swearing in Finnish
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 16:15Wow, great stuff!
It’s woth noting that things can also emerge from the deep(ness of the ass). So tämä on syvältä (this emerged from the deep) means the same than tämä on p***eestä.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 17:51PA: Absolutely, a good point! Thanks.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 20:31Actually we could go way further into this study of the word “v***u”. First of all, we can sometimes use expressions like “v***n v***n v***n v***u” if something has irritated us beyond normal scales which we can handle with “v***u” or “v***n v***u”.
While “v***upää” (cunthead) is easily translated and is associated with a specific person we also have the adjective form “v***umainen” which can be associated to practicly anything difficult or annonying.
But let’s go into more advanced topics. “voi v***lla päähän” (oh, somebody put a vagina in [someone's] head) comes in handy sometimes.
To express one’s opinion about some asshole one might say “vedä v***u päähäs” (please, draw a vagina over your head) which however doesn’t refer to cunnilingus. A more versatile form might be “vedä v***u päähäs ja pakene vuorille” (please, draw a vagina over your head and flee to the mountains). Similarly “suksi v***uun” (ski to vagina) or “painu v***uun” (get to vagina) do not suggest finding an actual vagina and going there.
In a somewhat older curses we have expressions like “voi v***ujen kevät” (oh, the spring of vaginas) which too are quite hard to distinguish from the translations of previous examples in less developed languages.
Then we have modern stuff associated with the word v***u like “V-käyrä” (V-curve), “k**********s” (constant “v***n v***u” feeling).
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 20:37hp: Thank you for your insightful contribution as well! “V***ujen kevät” is one of my personal favorites.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 21:21At least on the west coast of Finland the expression “v***ujen kevät” is often heard as a longer version: “V***ujen kevät ja k***ien takatalvi”. I, however, am not willing to translate that as it makes a whole lot less sense than “a spring of vaginas”.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 21:22Oh, and just to make one thing clear: progressive rock did not emerge from ass.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 21:49Ugus: “I, however, am not willing to translate that…”
You knew I’d love to do it myself, thank you! ;) “V***ujen kevät ja k***ien takatalvi” is “a spring of vaginas and a return of winter of cocks”.
“Oh, and just to make one thing clear: progressive rock did not emerge from ass.”
Sure it did. From the deepness of it.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 21:57To top it all off, one can add …ja poikittain (…and sideways), which gives the expression a certain sadistic flair: Tää on ihan p***eestä! Syvältä ja poikittain!, This stuff came out from the depths of an ass, sideways!.
Progressive rock emerged from too many bong hits, I believe.
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keskiviikkona, 19. tammikuuta 2005 klo 22:14Oh, how many lovely, painful and twisted variations we have for all these beautiful words we love so dearly. Clearly, this was an issue worth digging into.
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torstaina, 20. tammikuuta 2005 klo 8:07Käytännön harjoitusmateriaalia:
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torstaina, 20. tammikuuta 2005 klo 11:20JK: Instructions for pronounciation would have been left out entirely without your link, thanks!
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perjantaina, 21. tammikuuta 2005 klo 16:35“a return of winter of cocks”
hmm, i prefer the poetic alliteration of “a cold spell of cocks”
cbt
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perjantaina, 21. tammikuuta 2005 klo 16:46careygrrl: You’re absolutely right, that does sound better. Not knowing whether you can leave the “in spring” part out, I opted for the other one, since “a spring of vaginas and a cold spell in spring of cocks” would, in the end, leave one wondering whose spring it is.
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perjantaina, 21. tammikuuta 2005 klo 16:52obviously the classics like “p***eet olalle”, i.e. pull asses to your shoulders and “v***umainen jätkä”, i.e. vagina-like guy should be mentioned.
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perjantaina, 21. tammikuuta 2005 klo 17:11Only by seeing these translations did I come to think of how upside-down many of these words are. Take pete’s “v***umainen jätkä” for instance; a vagina-like guy, to me at least, sounds like something entirely different from how we usually perceive someone who is “v***umainen”. Being vagina-like almost sounds… uhh… positive…
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sunnuntaina, 23. tammikuuta 2005 klo 8:24Somebody sucks or something sucks you really do not have to have a source of sucking, like you had ass ,You just say ” he sucks.” Or “this movie sucks.”Same as you say in Finland “Voi v***u” you don’t say” who’s ,v***u where ever it is, sucks.”Doesn’t really make any difference,and who cares anyway.
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sunnuntaina, 23. tammikuuta 2005 klo 8:37Meilla on myoskin sanontoja jotka suoraan kaannettyna eivat aja tarkoitusta “You mother fucker” tai “fuck you”.Olemme myoskin kaantanneet sanontoja ns. suoraan “hevon p***a”=”bull shit”. Minka Amerikkalainen kaverimme 63v.huusi kaupan parkkipaikalla vanhemmilleni,SjaH,kun ei muutakaan Suomeksi osannut.Ainahan vieraasta kielesta opitaan ensin kirosanat.
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sunnuntaina, 23. tammikuuta 2005 klo 8:46Amerikassa sina et ole v***umainen,sina olet motherfucker,minka mina tunnen olevan paljon pahempi.Suomessa kaytetaan sanaa v***u niin usein ja olen itsekkin sita kayttanyt niin paljon etta siita on mennyt merkitys,sita kaytetaan normaali kanssa kaymisessa niin paljon, tai ainakin kaytettiin jo 15v. sitten etta mina en edes ajattele sita “TOSI”pahaksi sanaksi keskustelussa.
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sunnuntaina, 23. tammikuuta 2005 klo 11:58Satu: “Amerikassa sina et ole v***umainen,sina olet motherfucker,minka mina tunnen olevan paljon pahempi.”
I don’t believe I’ve ever used “v***umainen” to (or in?) anyone’s face, I’ve only used it to describe somebody to someone else. As a noun, “motherfucker” is more handy in that sense. (Or must be, can’t say I’ve ever used it face to face either, and would probably be even more careful using it so, since it would mean I’m dealing with someone from a different culture.)
I recently learned that motherfucker refers to someone who ‘just’ prefers women who are mothers. Can’t say that sounds nowhere near as bad as someone having sex with their own mother (the way it sounds to a finn, at least).
“Suomessa kaytetaan sanaa v***u niin usein ja olen itsekkin sita kayttanyt niin paljon etta siita on mennyt merkitys,sita kaytetaan normaali kanssa kaymisessa niin paljon, tai ainakin kaytettiin jo 15v. sitten etta mina en edes ajattele sita »TOSI«pahaksi sanaksi keskustelussa.”
Nowadays “v***u” is probably considered as part of the punctuation even if you asked Kielitoimisto.
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keskiviikkona, 26. tammikuuta 2005 klo 18:18“J*******a” is very interesting word. It is one of its kind in Finnish swearwords vocabulary. It is a word originally formed from “Jumala auta” “Please help me God”. However it has completely lost its original meaning, and nowadays it means nothing, except that the user of it expresses angryness, but it can be used also to express extreme astonishment, for example when seeing a really powerfull car doing a burnout.
In later mentioned use it almost has the same meaning as “oh my god”, but the angry meaning is something like”Now I am really mad!”
If there is going to be a fight, you’ll surely hear this word at least once. -
keskiviikkona, 26. tammikuuta 2005 klo 18:53Baredevil: Thanks for bringing this one up too, since it’s also one of my personal favourites. Perhaps somewhat paradoxically, even though ‘Jumala’ is a completely misformed and meaningless word to me, ‘j*******a’ makes me feel strong coming from my lips.
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keskiviikkona, 26. tammikuuta 2005 klo 19:23I forgot to mention also, that “j*******a” has formed also other “versions”, that also directly means nothing. For example “j********a”, “j*********a”, “j*******a”, “j*******e” and “jumantsuikka”. These somehow are often considered as a bit softer versions of “j*******a”.
Kummeli TV-series effectively used “j********a jätkät” (damn you guys) to express that those guys just done something as stupid a man can possibly do. :-) -
torstaina, 27. tammikuuta 2005 klo 14:44Baredevil: Whereas in speech I prefer the pure and original ‘j*******a’, at times ‘j*********a’ seems to slip from my keyboard more often.
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perjantaina, 18. maaliskuuta 2005 klo 7:26ttule gbg niin taidat saadat mitä haluat
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perjantaina, 18. maaliskuuta 2005 klo 7:26sää oot m*****u
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perjantaina, 18. maaliskuuta 2005 klo 7:28terveisiä//// sårskorppebanditen//////rupikonna
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torstaina, 31. maaliskuuta 2005 klo 10:24By the way, although vagina is a translation for v***u, the true swearword translation would be cunt. It has the raw edged brutality of its Finnish cousin, too
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torstaina, 31. maaliskuuta 2005 klo 17:13loopyloo: You’re absolutely right. I was just so amused by ButtUgly’s use of the medical term that I copied it.
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maanantaina, 13. helmikuuta 2006 klo 0:16hahah! i have forgotten how funny finnish swearwords are. :D
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sunnuntaina, 16. heinäkuuta 2006 klo 11:07I don’t understand Finnish too well, but I do agree the swearing is amusing. Does anyone know of any places in Australia that teach Finnish??
I really want to learn, but my stupid country lacks any real culture. (Incase you haven’t noticed, I’m not very patriotic :P )
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